Thursday, January 29, 2009

Ray Pointer of Inkwell Images is a Liar

Ray Pointer's thinly veiled comments directed toward the hypothosis that I've furthered should be judged on their own merits. http://forums.goldenagecartoons.com/showthread.php?t=12570

Ray Pointer posted the following comments on the GAC Forum, "As for the thread on this over at The Animation Show, there was a "gentleman" in Seattle who called me to claim that a relative of his had designed the first BUGS BUNNY."

Perhaps Mr Pointer is confused or suffering from debilitating dementia as his assertion has no basis in reality. His comments are not only slanderous, but entirely incorrect. I've never claimed that any relative had any association with the subject.
I'm obliged to post the exchange between the two of us because Mr Pointer refuses to retract his erroneous comments.

Ray Pointer's original comments on the GAC FORUM,
"As for the thread on this over at The Animation Show, there was a "gentleman" in Seattle who called me to claim that a relative of his had designed the first BUGS BUNNY. I asked him to send me a scan of it so I could see. When I opened the Email and saw the scan, I told him that this was a generic drawing of a type of rabbit, but not a design that could be considered BUGS BUNNY. He was not content with the considerate response I gave him and posted a thread at both The Animation Show and here at GAC proposing his agenda that his relative designed the first BUGS BUNNY."

I responded to him via email because I'm banned from the forum that he frequents;

My response follows;
Hello Mr. Pointer,I understand that you're a well respected professional and as such I'm confident that your personal integrity demands accuracy.I certainly respect your right to disagree with my thoughts on the subject of the Hardaway drawing, but please don't ascribe statements to me that I've never made. Your mischaracterization of my argument makes it quite clear that you haven't really considered the possibility of its correctness.I've never said anything about any relative of mine having had anything to do with this drawing or with animation.I've never said that this was the first Warner Bros rabbit.I have said that I think this drawing is the drawing described in the encyclopedia Britannica http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/83789/Bugs-Bunny , and by Virgil Ross http://bugshardaway.blogspot.com/2007_10_01_archive.htmland by Mel Blanc in several interviews http://bugshardaway.blogspot.com/2007_09_01_archive.html .My thoughts regarding the drawing are well reasoned and substantiated with references every step of the way.Please afford me the common courtesy of disagreeing with my actual statements, not imagined statements.
Cordially,
Chris



Mr Pointer responded;

Dear Sir,

You will notice that I made no direct reference to you, or used your name in the matter you describe. So you have not been "mischaracterized" or damaged in any way. Since it happened quite a while ago, I can only recall certain specifics of what happened since it was essentially a trivial issue that most everyone has forgotten about.

I have been, and am presently dealing with some far more important family issues that outweigh any petty arguments such as this. So you say I'm wrong. Fine. But the majority, including myself tried to diplomatically explain that you were mistaken in your concept, and gave you all of the reasons why. Your citing Encyclopedia Britannica and other sources that support your position does not make it so since these sources can be, and have on occasion been mistaken. This was not simply from me, but from other actual authorities on the subject, Jerry Beck being one of them.

Very sincerely yours,
Ray Pointer




Since the recent exchange, I've been excluded from Ray's email.

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm a former member of GAC forums and I remember the incident very well. As I recall, me and many other members, not just Ray, tried our best to explain to you why your claim is wrong and how very little and unreliable your evidence was at the time. Your responses to us were EXTREMELY insulting and your approach was just aggressive to say the least. You just would not listen to reason (as I'm guessing you still won't) and refused to accept any view contrary to your own. I'm also well aware you won't approve this comment.

I should also point out that I joined in the argument late and didn't know whether or not you were related to Mr. Hardaway or not (I still don't). My point is, I still had to ask you "what are you related to this guy or something?" because that's just what you sound like. A disgruntled relative who refuses to accept the fact that Tex Avery went on to make a name for himself. Hardaway may have just faded into obscurity but he still gets a lot of praise and respect from animation fans. Just GET OVER IT!

SEATTLECHEF@AOL.COM said...

I just received this comment from "anonymous" referring to Ray Pointer in the third person. Then in the next paragraph he speaks as Ray Pointer in the first person.
It's pretty obvious that it's you Ray. Why not muster up the courage to stand behind your opinion?

Still, you won't address the drawing itself or Hardaway's involvement in the development of the character because you're ill equipped.
Not surprising because you're not even sure if you're Ray Pointer or Anonymous.
I suggest you become familiar with the material before you comment.